Boxe Francaise, Canne de combat, Baton, Savate defense, Savate forme
Sunday, February 27, 2011
Saturday, February 26, 2011
New domain of TRUE Italian savate federation
And don't forget that Italian clubs of TRUE Italian savate federation FISA that practice savate were so angry on their kickboxing federation which stole them savate discipline that they almost all registered on the other hand in the same FIKBMS (ex FIKB) - Italian kickboxing federation in KICKBOXING SPORT as another discipline they practice for the year 2011.
OH ITALIANS. LIKE YOU SO MUCH. :)
TMB - Toulouse Multi Boxe Gym
And this is the point of multiboxing.
Nice music from Croatia
If you are interested to join this group please contact administrator of the dead webpage:
http://www.savateklub-kraljevec.hr/
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=164482578099
Latin words:
BUT YES - THEY PRACTICE SAVATE. WATCH THIS VIDEO.
French savateurs do it two ways in Italy
... says speaker. Judge Ludovic Fornes come to the ring - where Chauss fight tournament is appointed.
It happened on a competition of Italian kickboxing federation (FIKBMS (Ex FIKB)) called Savate Assalto (assaut) Golden League when Leonardo Manino fought vs. Luca Curabba on 20th of February 2011.
Listen IN FRENCH :) at the: 4:15
And who is mysterious Ludovic Fornes?
His chief Borg: http://www.planeteborg.com/
works his year chauss fight and also savate pro - BOTH WAYS :)
Worked many years in League PACA - Marseilles, France http://www.ligue-paca-savate.com/ as savateur, Ludovic is now removed secretly to the same website - but with another savate name CHAUSS FIGHT - where he develops CHAUSSFIGHT as a sport teacher all the progress http://www.chaussfight.com/.
In this way French savateurs exported to Italian kickboxing savate uwith different name CHAUSS FIGHT.
We can call http://www.chaussfight.com/ federation also another Federation International Savate.
Please look the structure of the chauss fight people:
*** RESPONSABLES DES COMMISSIONS NATIONALES
*** Commission Juridique : Fabrice ANDRAC
E-mail : fabrice.andrac@free.fr
*** Commission transversale : Claire ROBERT
*** Responsable des Compétitions : Ludovic FORNES
E-mail : forludo@hotmail.fr
*** RESPONSABLE TECHNIQUE NATIONAL
*** Laurent BOIS
E-mail : laurentboisctn@yahoo.fr
*** RESPONSABLES TECHNIQUES REGIONAUX (ETR Chauss'Fight)
* * * LIGUE ÎLE DE FRANCE
*** Responsable "Compétition et Officiels" : Gérard BONIO
E-mail : sbcs@orange.fr
sbcs@aliceadsl.fr
*** Responsable Technique : Djibrine Fall TELEMAQUE
E-mail : djibifall@yahoo.fr
*** Technicien : Richard SYLLA
E-mail : richard.sylla@free.fr
*** Technicien : Kamel CHOUAREF
E-mail : kamel.chouaref@hotmail.fr
* * * LIGUE PACA
*** Responsable des compétitions assauts : Patricia FARINA
E-mail : patriciafarinachaussfight@orange.fr
*** Responsables des Formations et des compétitions adultes : Olivier GAVARRI
E-mail : gavarri@yahoo.fr
*** Responsable des Grades : Christian LAMBERT
E-mail : c.lambert@lan-franchi.com
*** Intervenant Stages : Ludovic FORNES
E-mail : forludo@hotmail.fr
*** Grades : Juan Armand DALOMBA
E-mail : team_schoelcher@live.fr
* * * LIGUE CENTRE
*** Responsable Technique : André MACE
E-mail : macded37@orange.fr
* * * LIGUE LANGUEDOC ROUSSILLON
*** Responsable Technique : Gilles VERGNES
E-mail : gillesvergne@yahoo.fr
*** Responsables Compétition : Beka BELLHACENE
E-mail : teambeka@free.fr
*** Responsables Formation : Michel PETIT
E-mail : mireillelelong@aol.com
* * * LIGUE RHÔNE ALPES
*** Responsable Technique : Mohamed HOSNI
E-mail : yan.mo@hotmail.fr
* * * LIGUE AQUITAINE
*** Responsable Technique et Jeunes : Sylvain DONNET
E-mail : sylvan64@hotmail.fr
And GOD-FATHER: Christian ROBERT - President
http://punchuniversite.free.fr/
robertpunch13@yahoo.fr
But the president of League PACA is stil uknown and is not Christian Robert anymore - because they want to improve their website :)
SO. PROBALY WE FIND THE GUILTY PEOPLE FROM THE LAND OF SAVATE ORIGINS WHICH PRODUCE TRICKY COMBINATIONS IN OTHER SAVATE COUNTRIES.
ALL SAVATE LEGENDS. ALL RESPOSIBLE FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF SAVATE. AND ALL INVOLVED IN A VERY NASTY TRICKS HOW TO DESTROY CREATION OF NORMAL SAVATE FEDERATIONS IN EUROPE.
I HAVE TO SAY THAT CHRISTIAN ROBERT NORMALLY TRAIN SAVATE AND CHAUSS FIGHT LIKE TEAM BORG - BOTH SAVATE PRO AND CHAUSS FIGHT. THE SAME GOES FOR LUDOVIC FORNES.
WE SHOULDN'T CRY ABOUT THE SITUATION IN ITALY BECAUSE ALL ACTORS FROM FRANCE PRODUCE IT FOR YEARS.
WE FACE THE SITUATION WHERE FIS - INTERNATIONAL SAVATE FEDERATION DOESN'T HELP ANYONE IN ANY OF THESE SITUATION. WE FACE THE PROBLEM THAT THERE IS ONLY FRENCH SAVATE FEDERATION.
AND THE MESSAGE THEY SENT CLEARLY TO THE WORLD IS ... DON'T PAY ANNUAL MEMBERSHIP TO FIS TO PRACTICE SAVATE AND SELL IN ON A SPORT MARKET. YOU CAN DO IT ALSO IN A PARTNERSHIP WITH CHRISTIAN ROBERT WHO REPRESENT THE OTHER FIS 1 ORGANISATION CALLED ALSO CHAUSS FIGHT. THERE IS NO LICENSING PROGRAMME. IF YOU DO IT IN SHOES IT IS ALL SAVATE. YOU UNDERSTAND? SHOE IS SAVATE ? :)
And Italian media reported this:
(Marco Costaguta resposible through FFSCDA with Christian Robert and Ludovic Fornes for chauss fight sport organised a tournament and showed the discipline where kickboxing and savate co-exist together in a one beautiful and harmonic unity) :)
NASCE CHAUSS’FIGHT ITALIA
Al termine dei colloqui veramente “ospitali”, è stato stilato un documento che sancisce che il Maestro Costaguta è l’unico rappresentante ufficiale dello Chauss’fight in Italia.
Sarà l’unico referente per l’organizzazione e la strutturazione di un comitato direttivo nazionale nonche dei vari responsabili regionali per la regolamentazione della disciplina. Il 20 Febbraio 2011 a Genova, Marco Costaguta organizza una manifestazione internazionale chiamata "The Golden League Grand Prix", che vedrà, per l’occasione, il grande campione Ludovic Fornés esibirsi nello Chauss’Fight nonché i rappresentanti ufficiali della disciplina come ospiti.
Inoltre sarà di scena la sfida di Chauss’fight Italia vs Francia che vedrà ad eliminazione diretta unica lo svolgersi di un cosi’ riuscito stile di Savate e kickboxing insieme.
Il sig. Marco Costaguta, sempre all’opera, per la promozione e La divulgazione delle discipline da combattimento a giorni Nominerà i vari responsabili nazionali di settore: formazione tecnici Chauss’fight, formazione tecnici Chauss’fight assaux, formazione tecnici Chauss’fight self defence , formazione giudici ed arbitri, i vari responsabili regionali e a presto verrà pubblicato il calendario con le date per la formazione dei primi allenatori, istruttori maestri giudici ed arbitri.
Mameli savate club - also chauss fight and savate (and Christian Robert is judge in the ring)
IN THIS WAY WE WILL HAVE STILL ONE WORLD OR EUROPEAN COMPETITION PER YEAR AND MANY FRACTIONS WHICH WILL BE INITIATED FROM FRANCE. THEY WILL DO SAVATE THEIR OWN WAY AND SAVATE AS SPORT WILL BE ONE CREEPY DISCIPLINE IN UNITARD INTEGRAL DRESS, A LITTLE FUNNY AND A LITTLE OUT OF FASHION. BUT THROUGH YEARS IT WILL REAMIN POPULAR ENOUGH IN FRANCE TO COLLECT MONEY FOR SOME INDVIDUALS TO TAKE ALL POLITICAL POWERS TO BE ON TOP OF FRENCH FEDERATION AND TO TRAVEL WITH THIS FUNDS ALL AROUND THE WORLD TO SHARE SAVATE KNOWLEDGE TO SOME UNTOUCHED TRIBES ON THIS PLANET.
I THINK THAT THE MODEL THAT IS PLAYED THIS DAYS FROM FRANCE IS A VERY DANGEROUS ONE, BUT NOT FOR THE SAVATE MEMBERS BUT FOR THE SPORT SAVATE AND FIS.
AS IT LOOKS WE HAVE ANOTHER FIS THESE DAYS COMING OUT FROM MARSEILLES.
Thursday, February 24, 2011
Montenegro - Serbian kickboxing relations
Balcan championship 2008 Ohrid, Macedonia.
Eva Halsi (Serbia) vs. Sanja Ostojic (Montenegro)
Bekim Zendeli (Macedonia) vs. Milos Golic (Montenegro)
Montenegro kickboxing federation - new website
(finally hidden organisations show its faces after long, long time ...)
http://www.kbscg.me/
Wednesday, February 23, 2011
Sports television- the first specialized TV channel in Croatia
published 14.01.2011
On December 16th 2010, Sports television, the first specialized digital television channel based on the decision of the Council for Electronic Media, was granted the national concession.
Although the competition was fierce the company HOO TV Ltd., which is 100% owned by the Croatian Olympic Committee (COC), obtained this right. Thereby the COC, as a component of the international Olympic movement, is written down in history as a pioneer of the global sports movement in the use of modern digital achievements.Precisely the use of digital technology achievements is one of the fundamental recommendations of the 13th Olympic Congress ( held in Copenhagen, Denmark on October 5th 2009), not only in terms of adaptation but also in terms of initiatives in order for sports and Olympism to be more accessible and open for the community.
A part of this process in the Croatian Olympic Committee was consultation with all national sports federations and other members of the COC and the establishment of the e COC Council’s Committee for digitalization and new media, headed by M.Sc. Petar Cavlovic, specialist for the telecommunications market. The members of the Committee are the following: Ivan Skoro (COC Council), Smiljanka Skugor-Hrncevic (Hina), Aleksandra Supica (T-HT), Maja Indic (the Croatian Softball Association) and the secretary of the Committee Gordana Gacesa, the representative of the COC for public relations. Sports television must begin operations within 90 days after the publication of the decision on the concession in the Official Gazette and according to assessments, in early April 2011.A number of distinguished persons from the International and European Olympic movement gave their support and congratulated on this important event for Croatian sports. Zlatko Matesa, the president of the COC was among the first to be congratulated by the heads of European Olympic Committees and the International Olympic Committee. He rated the concession as a historic milestone of Croatian sports and the crowning achievement of Croatian athletes who are well respected in international sports.
Team BORG (Marseilles, France) from Chauss Fight to SAVATE-PRO
In case of Slovenian boxing federation they don't react , Dutch they punnish immediately
Dutch Boxing Association Provisionally Suspended
23.02.2011
The AIBA Executive Committee Bureau unanimously took the
following decisions on February 22, 2011:
1) To put the case of the Dutch Boxing Association for review by the AIBA Disciplinary Commission due to serious violations of the AIBA Technical & Competition Rules and Ethics Code by having organized a competition - The Final Four on April 3, 2010 in Purmerend - among professional, amateur and kick boxers, this without headguards or vests, and despite a warning from AIBA.
2) To provisionally fully suspend the Dutch Boxing Association, meaning that no boxers, coaches or any officials are authorized to take part in any AIBA approved or controlled events and/or meetings and that the Association is not authorized to host any continental or international boxing events until a final decision by the AIBA Disciplinary Commission is made. This suspension is effective immediately.
Muay thai team bambous - Mauritius, Africa presents so called savate
Ranini Cundasawmy vs. THE MAN
"Primary" discipline of muay thai:
ABRACADABRA DANCE
Tuesday, February 22, 2011
Italian Savate master Biagio “Gino” Bianchi 14/06/1914 -12/02/1964
Monday, February 21, 2011
Is SAVATE still part of FISU university sport family?
2012 World university championships - without savate?
Cross Country LODZ - Poland / 13/04 - 13/04 / proposed / Details | |
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Taekwondo POCHEON - Republic of Korea / May / proposed / Details | |
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Floorball PRAHA - Czech Rep. / 23/05 - 27/05 / proposed / Details | |
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Handball BLUMENAU Brazil / Mid June / Mid July / proposed / Details | |
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Karate BRATISLAVA - Slovakia / June / July / proposed / Details | |
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Triathlon YILAN COUNTY - Chinese Taipei / 29/06 - 30/06 / proposed / Details | |
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Orienteering ALICANTE - Spain / 02/07 - 06/07 / proposed / Details | |
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Golf LIBEREC - Czech Rep. / 02/07 - 06/07 / proposed / Details | |
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Archery CORDOBA - Spain / 04/07 - 07/07 / proposed / Details | |
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Rugby Seven BRIVE-LA-GAILLARDE - France / 06/07 - 08/07 / proposed / Details | |
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Bridge REIMS - France / 10/07 - 15/07 / proposed / Details | |
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Sprint Canoeing KAZAN - Russian Federation / 20/07 - 22/07 / proposed / Details | |
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Beach Volleyball MACEIO - Brazil / 23/07 - 29/07 / proposed / Details | |
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Chess GUIMARAES - Portugal / August / proposed / Details | |
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Futsal BRAGA - Portugal / August / proposed / Details | |
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Boxing COLORADO SPRINGS - USA / 02/08 - 10/08 / proposed / Details | |
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Softball COLORADO SPRINGS - USA / 02/08 - 11/08 / proposed / Details | |
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Sport Shooting KAZAN - Russian Federation / 21/08 - 26/08 / proposed / Details | |
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Equestrian AACHEN - Germany / 22/08 - 26/08 / proposed / Details | |
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Baseball TAOYUAN - Chinese Taïpei / 23/08 - 03/09 / proposed / Details | |
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Match Racing VALLAURIS - France / 03/09 - 08/09 / proposed / Details | |
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Rowing BANYOLES - Spain / 08/09 - 10/09 / proposed / Details | |
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Wrestling KUORTANE - Finland / 02/10 - 07/10 / proposed / Details | |
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WeightliftingEILAT - Israel / 02/10 - 07/10 / proposed / Details | |
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Badminton GWANJU - Korea / 09/11 - 14/11 / proposed / Details | |
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Speed Skating POZNAN - Poland / 18/12 - 22/12 / proposed / Details |
Hesdy Gerges arrested for drug trafficking
The kickboxing world suffered another huge blow on February 16, as It’s Showtime and K-1 fighter Hesdy Gerges was arrested for drug trafficking.
The arrest of Gerges was in relation to a raid by Belgium officials in May, where Hesdy’s half brother, Ashraf and his friend were caught with 128 kilos of cocaine in Antwerp, Belgium. Gerges, as well as four more suspects were arrested today at the behest of Belgium officials, who will demand extradition.
Hesdy was asked about this last year and vehemently denied having anything to do with his brother’s drug smuggling operation. It is unclear what Hesdy’s involvement is at this point, but according to at5.nl, during the raid computers, phones as well as weapons and ammunition were confiscated, but it was not clear what, if anything was taken from Gerges. This comes hot on the heel of Ashwin Balrak’s arrest for drug possession in November, found with 82 kg of cocaine on him, as well as Badr Hari’s sprawling legal problems involving assault on a bouncer last year.
To compound matters, Mayor Van der Laan of Amsterdam has been very vocal about kickboxing and martial arts events, and was looking to crack down on organized crime in Amsterdam. He believes that kickboxing events bring organized crime to the city and parade criminals around as VIPs. He is unhappy with the image the city has and is looking to clean it up. There was talk of outright banning events, but Van der Laan has recently went on record stating that is not his intention.
With It’s Showtime’s next event on March 6th, it appears that Hesdy Gerges will not be able to fight in the main event against Daniel Ghita, as a case like this will take a while to be sorted out, especially because it involves an extradition process.
Source : Liverkick.com
Sunday, February 20, 2011
Police savate federation France - FSPN savate
http://www.france-police-sport.org/sport.php
Police savate federation France
http://savatefspf.free.fr/equipe_france/equipe_france.html
Technical savate director - F.S.P.N.
Fransois Rios
Mail: f.rios@free.fr
Competitors:
ABDELAOUI Hakim Né le : 29/07/1978 | 4 fois Champion du Monde Elite A 2001 – 2003 – 2005 - 2009 4 fois Champion d'Europe Elite A Champion de France 2003 – 2004 – 2005. |
Champion de France Police 2001 – 02 - 03 - 04 - 06 - 07- 09 |
CHEVALIER Ludovic Né le : 27/08/1981 | Champion d'Europe 2010 |
Champion de France Elite 2010 | |
Champion de France Honneur 2003 | |
Champion de France Police 2008 - 2009 |
CHIMENTO Né le : | Champion de France et d'Europe technique 2005 Champion de France Elite 2002 |
Vice champion d'Europe Elite 2002 Finaliste Championnat de France 2003 | |
Demi-finaliste Elite 2004 - 2007 | |
Champion de France Police 2001 – 2002 – 2003 -2004 |
DOYA Stéphane Né le : 28/09/1975 | Champion d'Europe Elite 2004 - 2006 |
Champion de France Elite 2004 | |
Finaliste championnat de France Elite 2005 - 2006 | |
Champion de France Honneur 2003> | |
Champion de France Police 2001 – 2002 – 2003 – 2004 – 2005 -2006 |
MERCOIROL Nathalie Née le : 07/08/1976 | Championne d'Europe et de France Assaut 2003 |
Championne du monde et de France technique 2004 - 2010 | |
Championne de France Police 98 – 99 – 2002 – 2004 -2005 -2006 |
BOUAISSA Yacine Née le : | Championne du Monde et de France Assaut 2010 |
Championne de France Police 2008 - 2009 - 2010 |
Elite A - competitors:
FIORINI Alexandre Né le : 07/09/1979 | Elite depuis 2002 |
Demi finaliste 2004 et 2005 | |
Finaliste Elite A 2010 |
HAMADOUCH Maeva Née le : 20/01/1976 | Demi-finaliste Elite 2010 |
Elite B - competitors:
BOUBEE Jonhatan | 1/2 finaliste 2007 |
Saturday, February 19, 2011
1938 New York: Savate influence or Women Kick Boxing?
IMAGE:
© Bettmann/CORBIS
DATE PHOTOGRAPHED
June 06, 1938
LOCATION
New York, New York, USA
COLLECTION
Bettmann
Friday, February 18, 2011
Silvia La Notte - punnished by Scottish Muay thai girl Amy Pyrne
8th Match - K1 women 3x3 min -50kg
Tournament: Night Kick Out 5
Amy Pirnie (GBR) Vs Silvia La Notte (ITA)
But in WAKO judges takes all the decisions correctly. Kickboxing reality.
If we compare muay thai fighter Amy Pyrne with kickboxing Silvia La Notte than we can say if we relax kickboxing WAKO - fighting rules that muay thai Amy was better. When we compare kickboxing Silvia La Notte with savate Cabarrecq Chloe than we can say if we relax savate FIS - fighting rules that Silvia was better.
And we can do it from case to case from one martial art to another.
What is better? Who is stronger?
It depends?
IT DEPENDS HOW DO WE RELAX RULES AND SPECIFICALLY IN WHICH DIRECTION.
AND THIS IS PROBABLY THE ESENCE OF ALL MULTI FIGHTING STORIES AND ITS FIGHTERS.
Thursday, February 17, 2011
CSEN savate Italy, Silvestro Demontis
Master Silvestro Demontis, multi martial artist, 8th dan black belt in karate, an expert in Kobudo (weapons - short stick and long) expert Kiu - Shin - Do, Karate method - Street Fight, the author of two Technical books volume 1 and 2, edited C. S. E. N. Sport, an expert on firearms, shooting practice, has begun its activity at 15 years with english boxing. After 40 years of martial arts he had the honour to know and become a great friend of the Master George Messina (savate). Messina was his mentor and they both wanted to unify savate in Italy under the same federation.
The memory of the Master Messina is still alive in their minds and memories. In memory of Master Messina, the Teacher Demontis is continuing to practice savate with great difficulty and want to unify the work under the auspices of the C. S. E. N. Anyone interested in sharing this dream can contact the Master Demontis www.silvestrodemontis.it.
Il Maestro Demontis, cultore di arti marziali, cintura nera 8° dan di karate, esperto di Kobudo (nella pratica delle armi bianche, bastone corto e lungo) esperto di Kiu - Shin - Do, codificatore del metodo Karate Street Fight, autore di due quaderni tecnici 1 e 2 volume, edito C. S. E. N. Sport, esperto di armi da fuoco, di tiro pratico e dinamico ha iniziato la sua attività a 15 anni con la boxe, in questi 40 anni di arti marziali praticate a tutti i livelli ha avuto l'onore di conoscere e diventare grande amico del Maestro Messina Giorgio, che ha nominato Cavaliere dell'Arte e Cavaliere dello Sport. Col Maestro Messina, essendo il Maestro Demontis coordinatore nazionale dlla Savate C. S. E. N., ha condiviso il grande sogno di unificare questa bellissima arte in un'unica sigla nazionale.
Il ricordo del Maestro Messina è vivo tutt'oggi nella mente e nei ricordi dei grandi Savateurs genovesi e italiani. Nel ricordo del Maestro Messina, il Maestro Demontis sta continuando con grande difficoltà l'opera di unificare sotto l'egida del C. S. E. N. la Savate. Chiunque fosse interessato a condividere questo sogno può contattare il Maestro Demontis www.silvestrodemontis.it.
Yonnel Kurtz (FIS - Paris savate) and Julia Irmen (WAKO kickboxing)
Watch Julia Irmen Goldner in a savate T - shirt executing low kick kickboxing technique as a true savate fighter. This is so called savate international cooperation. I don´t know if in Germany savate fighters recognise Julia as a part of their team. It would be weird while she practice mostly other barefoot WAKO kickboxing sports.
Enjoy: 0:26 - 0:44
But don't forget Italian savate case. Italian savateurs hate WAKO kickboxers which want to steal their loving savate style of fighting. Touchy again.
Wednesday, February 16, 2011
Savate stage - Fathi Mira in a special PRO English boxing AIBA - WSB gym in Milan, Italy
Fathi Mira - ex-competitor in savate and one of the best Frech trainers these days:
In this gym Silvia La Notte teach also so called "bambini" - I think that this world means children. But not savate. I think it is kickboxing. FIKBMS - kicboxing. FIKBMS is federation that wants to steal savate from FISA - Italian savate federation. Touchy :).
http://www.wsbmilano.com/images/stories/legenda_corsi.pdf
http://www.wsbmilano.com/images/stories/thunder_gym_plan_2010.pdf
Can you feel some secret connections in martial art world ?
DEHIMI Mohamed - trainer Poleboxe77
Please comments to these videos. Opponents of Dehimi mohamed are ...
Great Britain Savate Federation (GBSF) - League event 2011
Dave Bennett, from Cambridge Academy of Martial Arts®, Cambridge, in his first Savate comp (and his 2nd contest) at the Great Britain Savate Federation (GBSF) League event held near Guildford on Sunday 13th February, 2011. It is a controlled-contact bout, which means that neither fighter is trying to hurt, injure, or knock the other out.
Tuesday, February 15, 2011
Italian system of logical statements about savate sport
Then it was
Italian kickboxing federation - FIKB
Then we realized that we also need
Italian savate federation - FISa
And at the end of these funny story we have FIKBMS:
Italian kickboxing - muay thai - savate federation - FIKBMS
recognised by Italian authorities.
http://www.fikb.it - ex FIKB, now FIKBMS
And how did diplomas transform during this time, through various organisations/federations?
Why can't we find Italian savate federation in CONI - Italian Olympic Committee - it is said that this one is recognised by FIS - International savate federation? And the only one :)
First example: Daniele Abate
(his club is in FISa and in FIKBMS (ex FIKB)
He practice kickboxing and savate
His savate diplomas in FISa (january 2011)
His savate diplomas in FIKBMS (ex FIKB) (October or January 2009)
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Second example:
Alessandri Luigi (his club is in FISa and in FIKBMS (ex FIKB)
He practice kickboxing and savate
http://www.ecoledesavate.it/